ALMA North American Science Advisory Committee Telecon
Phone Meeting 2007, April 27
This page available at https://safe.nrao.edu/wiki/bin/view/ALMA/27Apr07Minutes
- Call date: 2007-04-27 14:00 EDT or 18:00 UT (Friday)
- Duration: 1 hr
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- Leaders: Chris Carilli, Jon Williams
ANASAC Members (Attendees in RED
* Andrew Baker (Rutgers) (2008)
* John Bally (U. Colorado) (2008)
* Xiaohui Fan (U. Az.) (2007)
- Andrew Blain (Caltech) (2007)
- Todd Clancy (SSI) (2009)
* Paul Ho (CfA, Harvard) (2008)
* Kelsey Johnson (UVa) (2009)
- Terry Herter (Cornell) (2009)
* Lee Mundy (U. Md) (2007)
* Gorden Stacey (Cornell) (2009)
- Doug Johnstone (HIA/DAO, Victoria) (2007)
* Jonathan Williams, Chair (U. Hawaii) (2008)
* Christine Wilson (McMaster U.) (2007)
* Mel Wright (UC Berkeley) (2008)
- Jaqueline van Gorkom (Columbia) (2009)
- Alycia Weinberger (DTM) (2009)
= Member of ASAC)
* J. Hibbard
- A. Wootten
- C. Carilli
1) Action Items (Carilli)
of 26 Jan 2007 meeting. Approved
Action items from March 2007 telecon:
It was decide to solicit ideas prior to next face to face, and then
decide at face to face
- ACTION: Future science meetings
- WHO: All
- Due: June 07
- Done: continuing
Note from doug: As for the ALMA Primer that we are working on and which is listed as
an action item today, we (rene plume, james difrancesco, and i) are still putting it together
but will forward it to folks when it is a little more complete.
- ACTION: Doug should contact Mark Adams about Canadian Brochure
- WHO: Doug Johnstone
- Due: June 07
- Done: Doug
- ACTION: Send DRSP II to ANASAC for NA input
- WHO: ASAC members
- Due: May 07
- Done: April 27
The DRSP II can be found following the links at:
Does the ANASAC want to have coordinated input into this, or
See ASAC Report below
It was decided to have a spectral line catalog presentation at next
face to face
- ACTION: Does ASAC/ANASAC want Splatalog presentation
- WHO: Blain
- Due: May 07
- Done: May 07
- ACTION: Review membership
- WHO: Carilli
- Due: April 07
A number of members are due to rotate off in 2007. Can we have some suggestions
as to new members, and perhaps rotating the difficult job of the Chair?
It was decided that the ANASAC should propose the next chair to NRAO,
and hence this will be decided in closed session at next face to face.
New members should be suggested, and the rotation will occur after next
face to face
- ACTION: Get further input on NSF reaction to Grants
- WHO: Carilli
- Due: April 07
- Done: see item 4 below
- ACTION: Set up wiki for face to face dates
- WHO: Wootten
- Due: June 1
2) ALMA Science IPT Science IPT concerns. (Wootten)
Al Wootten discussed the arrival of the first antenna elements at the OSF and other
project news, including the recent advertisment of AIV scientist positions in Chile. Testing
continues at ATF, although there have been some software challenges.
Also discussed were recent software testing (CASA, pipeline, user interface),
A longer S/W discussion can be held at face to face.
3) Update on ASAC (Mundy)
ASAC Web Page
ASAC Face-to-face agenda: https://safe.nrao.edu/wiki/bin/view/ALMA/ASAC7May07Agenda
Please read the ASAC charges. The ANASAC is invited to provide comment to the NA ASAC members.
The ESAC and EASAC have had face-to-face meetings this past month to provide their members with advice.
The ASAC meets in tokyo may 7,8. the action items are give above. the issue was raised
as to how to get ANASAC input to the ASAC. after the telecon, the following email was
circulated by Jon Williams:
Here are some issues that came up from last Friday's telecon. Its
very short notice but if we are to give the "community" input to the
ASAC before their next face-to-face meeting in Tokyo next week, we
should email them by Friday before they leave. The NA members of ASAC
are Andrew Blain, Doug Johnstone, John Bally, Lee Mundy, and
Jacqueline van Gorkom. You can find their email addresses at http://
1. The ALMA Design Reference Science Plan 2.0 should be publically
available by the end of the week at http://www.strw.leidenuniv.nl/
~alma/drsp.shtml Let the ASAC know if you think there are important
high priority projects missing or whether there is an imbalance in
the division of time for different areas.
2. Comments welcome on the ALMA EPO Development Plan at
particularly in regard to the percentage of operations funds.
The general issue of how to get ANASAC input to ASAC was discussed.
This should also be formalized at the face to face, as well as a more
formal relationship between the ANASAC and the NAASC/NRAO -- last
year we moved toward a formal charge and response format. We should
continue the move, until we operate more like the ASAC and the ALMA
4) ALMA Ops, NAASC proposal reviews (Carilli/Hibbard)
is currently responding to the panel report. Carilli will summarize
the main questions and response.
Does the ANASAC want to see the final Global Ops plan?
Discussion -- current standing of the potential for a grants program, and how
to make progress. The latest word from the NSF is that implementing such a program
remains programmatically impossible. NRAO will continue to pursue the discussion with
NSF. A further recommendation from the ANASAC as to the need for the program, and a
suggestion as to how to promote such a grants program in the user comminity (AAS townhall,
email questionaire, other?) would be helpful.
The grants program was discussed at length. The question arose as to whether
the ANASAC should take a very overt approach, eg. an open letter to AAS to support
a grants program for large ground-based facilities, along the lines suggested by
decade survey, or through AAS townhall. the concensus was that it was better to
continue to keep discussions limited to smaller group for now.
A.Russell was at NSF last week and discussed the grants program. There seems to be
some movement on the viability of such a program, probably under the auspices
of a revised PI grants program, although the discussions were not concrete.
The grants program, and the role of the anasac, will be major agenda item at
face to face.
Action item: ask NSF for more details as to why option 2 of anasac recommendations,
ie. letting the nsf decide on the funding after the ALMA prc has made its time
recommendations, is not allowed?
5) ALMA Workshops (Brogan)
see also upcoming meeting of the ESO community:
there are 70+ registrants, which is full capacity. all goes well.
6) Date of face-to-face and next telecon
June looks too difficult. Possibly one day end aug or sept.
Wootten will set up wiki for dates.
Free-streaming web access to the presentations is being planned and some hardware
is being purchased to make this happen for the disk workshop and NRAO 50th.
- Date of next phone meeting will be on: June 1, 2007
- We need to plan the next face-to-face. Options are: After June NAASC workshop, or end of August or other.
- 02 May 2007